Jen Friel launched her first business when she was 8 years old. A writer, she created the blog sensation "Talk Nerdy to Me Lover". Of course, Jen's delivered a TED Talk. Oh, and Jerry Bruckheimer bought her life rights. Twice. She's also another Verified who follows Mark on Twitter. And apparently Mark first asked to interview her on the pod ... ten years ago. (This pod launched in August of 2018.) Mark ponders the last two weeks and difficult conversations.

Recorded at the Reasonable Desk at the

Raymond Chandler Memorial Bachelor Pad, Hollywood, CA.

Recorded by Mark Roman.

Mixed & mastered by Ollie Holliday.