Licensed professional counselors Johanna Dwinells and Sarah Bryski-Hamrick are slowly demystifying and destigmatizing therapy, one episode at a time. Recording and living in the Philadelphia area, Johanna and Sarah work to make therapy feel more accessible, with quirky, sometimes intrusive questions that reveal the human side of healthcare professionals, all while they overcome their own anxieties and internalized stigmas. 

TW: Mention of Suicide, Chronic pain, infertility and medical racism. 

Episode summary: Johanna plays a new instrument. Sarah gardens. They both discuss what their “heat anger”. Guest, Anyana Ali, talks about working with women of color, racism and anxiety, infertility and pregnancy loss, experiences with medical racism and so much more!

Guest Bio: Ayana Ali is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) and Coach with 22 years of professional experience. Having worked with a diverse client population and in a variety of settings, she now specializes in the treatment of  women living with debilitating anxiety.  Ayana also works intensively with women suffering from the trauma experienced as a result of infertility and pregnancy loss.  She is committed to providing a safe space for women not only to grow in, but to heal and thrive in as well.

Resources: Abortion Resources; CDC information on Racism and Health; Organizations like Black Women’s Blueprint; Ayana’s website  

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