This week, Interstates & Heartbreak throws it back to episode one, with my inaugural podcast guest Denzel Walkes. We open with an update on Denzel's dating life, and how one of my former guests inspired him to revamp his strategy on the apps. From there we unpack all of the implications around women asking men out, with a discussion ranging from the games people play in dating, traditional gender roles, and whether we've fully evolved beyond them. The episode closes with an unabashed critique of the traditional dating handbook, The Rules.

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