The Flourish Feed Podcast

#36 - The Metabolic Cost of Everything


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In this episode, we explore how understanding and consciously managing our metabolic energy can help us thrive amidst chaos - from geopolitical tensions to AI-driven change. Dr. Sarah Sarkis, a clinical psychologist turned executive coach, shares practical insights on how to become more intentional with our internal resource and navigate uncertainty with resilience.


Key topics:
📈The concept of metabolic budget and its influence on high performance
🪫How to treat energy as a finite resource and the importance of small investments
📈The five autonomic response patterns: urgency, withdrawal, control, overconnection to threat, and regulation
🪫Strategies for recognizing and shifting autonomic patterns towards adaptive regulation
📈The role of sleep, mindfulness, and discomfort training in sustaining energy
🪫The importance of internal self-awareness over external control in uncertain environments
📈How to future-proof your energy system by experimenting with small, intentional changes


Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction to energy as a vital wealth in uncertain times
02:20 - The metabolic budget analogy: spending energy across life domains
04:00 - How ambitious pursuits impact energy and resource allocation
06:40 - Recognizing energy overspending and regressions to the mean
08:00 - Five factors of flourishing and their energy costs
10:00 - When and how to undo energy imbalances and patterns
12:00 - What balanced energy feels like versus burnout
14:00 - The flow of sustainable performance: oscillating between flow and recovery
16:00 - Using small, consistent experiments to manage energy more effectively
20:00 - The neurochemistry of flow and the importance of strategic recovery
24:00 - The danger of persistent stress and the need for intentional pauses
30:00 - The myths around living in an 'optimal' state and embracing oscillation
35:00 - Recognizing and managing autonomic response patterns: urgency and withdrawal
40:00 - Navigating control, over-connection to threat, and emotional regulation


Quotes:
•"Everything costs something. Most especially success, achievement, curiosity, and all the markers of a deeply engaged life."
•"We think only losses are debits. We don't realize that success is a debit because it takes a ton of energy."
•"Most of us will unconsciously continue to do what is most neuroeconomically efficient."
•"We regress to the average of our best habits when the system realizes we've spent too much."
•"Today's the least stressful day of your life. Tomorrow gets more complex."
•"Anybody who tells you we can eliminate stress is selling you bullshit. You cannot. You can adapt to it."
•"Be careful what you allow to become normal."
•"You become ready by doing."
•"A team can only move as fast as the person who withdraws the most."
•"Get really comfortable being uncomfortable. The sooner you train that, the better you'll navigate uncertainty."


Stay tuned for Dr. Sarah Sarkis’ forthcoming book:
An Inside Job: Leveraging Psychology to Transform Peak Performance


More on the study from the Human Factors Lab: the benefits of a 10 minute mindfulness meditation


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The Flourish Feed PodcastBy Gillian Stovel Rivers