The Mama Circle

36. Why your child’s sleep will never be perfect! with sleep expert Hannah Clapham


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In this episode of The Mama Circle Podcast, Natalie chats with Hannah Clapham from Little Nest Sleep about the reality of baby and toddler sleep. Hannah shares how she went from feeling out of control and exhausted to helping families find what works for them, without rigid routines or guilt.

They talk honestly about why there’s so much pressure to ‘do sleep right’ and how easy it is to feel like you’re failing when your child doesn’t follow the rules.

Inside this episode:

  • What ‘sleep training’ really means (and why it’s not just cry-it-out)

  • The cultural myths that tell us sleep should look the same for every family

  • Why short naps and early wake-ups can be normal

  • How sleep needs change as your child grows

  • How to handle naps without losing your mind

  • Tips for adding baby number two and managing different sleep needs

  • Permission to trust yourself more and shut out the noise

This chat is full of nuance, real stories and reminders that you’re not alone. It’s for anyone feeling stuck in the trenches of sleep deprivation or second-guessing every bedtime.

Need some help with your little one's sleep? Connect with Hannah


  • Hannah's website: www.littlenest.uk
  • Instagram: @littlenestsleep


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The Mama CircleBy Natalie K. Martin