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Path Girl and I discuss how to learn from and not run away from failures that occur during kink/sex/power exchange.

Enygma and I talk about bottoms who don't build up or try to manipulate their tops...it's a real thing!

We also discuss Kathy officially leaving the show. :(

End show song is Preach it to a wall.

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