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In today's episode, I interview Dylan Trupiano, director of the new short film "Recesses," a poignant reflection on hidden childhood trauma and education system.

Listen to hear about the inspiration for the story in his own childhood experience with a teacher for a parent, the nature of childhood memories versus adult memories, and the difficulties of figuring out how to tackle such a serious topic with the right young actor for the film.

Books mentioned in this episode include:

• 2666 by Roberto Bolaño
• Gilead by Marilynne Robinson
• John by Annie Baker

Films and TV shows mentioned in this episode include:

• "Recesses" directed by Dylan Trupiano
• Ratcatcher directed by Lynne Ramsay
• Certain Women directed by Kelly Reichardt
• La ciénaga directed by Lucrecia Martel
• No Country for Old Men directed by Joel and Ethan Coen
• Fallen Angels directed by Wong Kar-Wai
• Eddington directed by Ari Aster

Follow Dylan on Instagram @dylantrupiano and the film @recessesfilm.

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