We talk about what Paul of Tarsus said Jesus had to do in order to save the world, and how this idea of "emptying" applies to our lives psychologically, and in particular to Zach's new identity as an artist, which he has to surrender to in order to finally develop the video game that is the other main part of his calling as a Depth Mystic.

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