Mike O joins Jason to talk about U2's 1997 album Pop.

Did the tepid response to this somewhat experimental album lead U2 to make safe music for the rest of their career?

Is this album sequenced for the CD era, and does it trail off at the end because they didn't quite finish it?

The two friends discuss their memories of U2, the album, how they're connecting with music these days, and much more.

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