This week we're joined by author, activist, and theologian Brian McLaren for a conversation about collapse, connection, and finding courage in uncertain times. Brian is the author of Life After Doom: Wisdom and Courage for a World Falling Apart and a longtime voice at the intersection of spirituality, justice, and social change.

We talk about ecological grief, capitalism, and the stories we've inherited about power, progress, and faith. Brian shares what it means to walk through hard truths without losing hope, and how deep relationships can keep us grounded, even and especially when the future feels uncertain.

Stay connected with Brian McLaren:

• Website: https://brianmclaren.net

• Podcast: Learning How to See

• Twitter/X: @brianmclaren

• Instagram: @brianmclaren

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