In the sea of shiny technology objects (I am talking frameworks, tools, libraries, and many others), Dan Shawhas been pretty opinionated - focus on delivering value to the customer first, and tools second. In this episode, I sit down with Dan to learn more about this approach, and how he applied it in his career and work with the Node.js community - after all, he's known as the Godfather of Node.js.

You can find Dan on the following sites:

• 🐤 Twitter
• 📝 Blog

The podcast was produced by Den Delimarsky. Music by Wataboi from Pixabay.

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