In episode 39 of the 'If I Ruled The World' podcast, host Gillian Burke records an impromptu episode as she engages in a raw and heartfelt discussion with ocean activist Cal Major. 

Responding to an Instagram post about the ongoing genocide in Gaza, and the escalation of war in the Middle East in general, Cal Major opens up about her feelings of helplessness and the challenges of speaking out.

Together, they explore why the nature & environmental sector remains largely silent on issues of war, the interconnectedness of environmental destruction and military conflict and more nuanced barriers to activism and anti-war campaigning.

This candid conversation hopes to inspire more people to speak up and make meaningful connections between human rights and environmental advocacy.

Mentions:

Our Ocean Podcast | with Cal Major 

Seaful UK Charity | Protect What You Love

Anti-war protest | London's largest ever protest

Chilcot Inquiry Report

The US military and the myth that humans are predisposed to violence

Gaza | The most intense bombardments in history

Zeteo news

Breaking Points

The Israel-Palestine Report

Declassified UK 

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