Sam calls in with Jons Janssens, founder and partner at Conway & Co.
Jons helps executives and investors to get their companies fit for digital growth. 
At Conway & Co, they provide independent advice for modern consumer brands on technology, strategy and people.

In this episode they talk about what to do to reach digital maturity, look at your business through a systems lens, what to consider before you go headless and much, much more...
Enjoy!

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