The sort-of return of Old Time Religion is here and let me apologize up front for the some moments in the audio where you can hear me moving things around, I forgot to record separate audio tracks.

With that out of the way, for this episode Nathan and I spoke with medium, spiritualist, and practitioner of witchcraft, Jessica Karels about her spirituality and mysticism. In that framework, we hit on everything from tarot readings to the incorporation of new-age spirituality being coopted by this fine nation's latest breed of far-right lunatics.

You can learn more about Jessica at her website themysticgeek.com