In a very excitable episode for Clare, they interview the creator of the blog The Leviathans Have the Angel, Sasha aka 22to22! They talk about the wasted potential of God- and Levia-stiel, their shared love of Naomi, and Sasha's Supernatural-inspired games available on Itch.io.

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Clare (she/they): @dooplissss on Tumblr, @doopliss27 on Twitter, 

Sasha (they/them): 22to22 on Itch.io, Portfolio

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Links and sources mentioned:

Samkatdiz

Girlboss Naomi playlist

Way More Than You Asked For Levstiel tutorial

Beloved game footage

You Will Surely Go Mad

Twine

Russian Winnie the Pooh

22to22 games