Sabrina Segal, a risk and compliance professional with almost 20 years in the international development humanitarian sector, says there's a link between democracy and third-sector anti-corruption efforts, also commonly referred to as charities and nonprofit organizations. In this podcast, she joins Michele Crymes, Deputy Director for CIPE's Anti-Corruption and Governance Center, to discuss the importance of risk considerations in operations and knowledge sharing between third-sector organizations and small- and medium-sized enterprises. Segal and Crymes also debate how the private sector can serve as a better partner to the third sector. This podcast is brought to you by CIPE's Anti-Corruption and Governance Center.