Virtual dreams, virtual nightmares, and goddamn Campbell, oh my! Shaun Duke and Jen Zink join forces for a post-convention discussion of CoNZealand. They discuss what worked, what didn’t, their personal experiences of attending the first ever virtual Worldcon, that mess with the goddamn Hugo Awards, what it’s like to lose a Hugo three separate times, and much MUCH more! Thanks for listening. We hope you enjoy the episode! Show Notes: CoNZealand CoNZealand Fringe If you have a question you’d like us to answer, feel free to shoot us a message on our contact page. Our new intro and outro music comes from “Sphere” by Creo (CC BY 4.0), which has been slightly modified to include sound effects and for length purposes.