Welcome to Third Side Convo — where we cut through the noise and get to the real conversation. In this powerful and polarizing episode, host Bob Phipps is joined by an all-star panel: Ted Johnson, Stacia Boyd, Bill Russell, and Oli Phipps. Together, they tackle one of the most complex and divisive issues facing our nation: immigration.
From undocumented workers in the shadows, to the controversial role of employers, to questions of constitutionality and due process — nothing is off-limits.
We explore:
1. Should all undocumented immigrants be deported?
2. Are immigration laws fair, outdated, or simply unenforced?
3. Do non-citizens have constitutional rights?
4. What role do employers play in perpetuating the problem?
5. Can we find common ground in compassion and law?
You'll hear passionate opinions, legal perspectives, and deeply personal stories — including voices of those who have navigated the U.S. immigration system.
Whether you're pro-reform, hardline, or just trying to understand both sides, this conversation is a must-watch.
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