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In this weeks episode of ConverSayTrans our 4th release we are in conversation with Allie O Rourke. Allie is a comedian and comedy promoter who brought a canoe oar to her conversation with Alexandra and Jules. We invite you to listen in tomorrow to discover why exactly that was and we dare you not to laugh! And don't forget to rate us on Apple Podcasts ;). Checkout thestairlingscollective.com. Sound, Editing and Production by @jordanhearns.

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