Sure, Michael Wear may have directed faith outreach for President Obama’s historic 2012 re-election campaign, served in the White House faith-based initiative during President Obama’s first term, and written the acclaimed book "Reclaiming Hope," but probably more important than any of this stuff is that he's a HUGE Ariana Grande fan, and an enneagram 4.

That's why we had him on to geek out on both subjects - we stay away from that politics thing for the most part, and focus on what really matters: "Thank u, next," and why an enneagram 2 could never write a song like that.   

FEATURING:   

Nixon? Why he's a classic non-resourceful four.   

An Ariana Grande Song for every type!  

Why 4s wash the dishes so dang much!

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