4.1 Introduction and opening comments. Intro subject: This podcast and copyright. Corrections and clarifications: Swallowing phrases still noticeable. Example from last episode: Fiver's HAVING a nightmare. Blackberry and Dandelion and the first conversation in the book. I let the film influence me.

4.2 Introduction to Chapter 4 The chapter starts with an explanation of "fu Inlé" ("after moonrise") as indicating how rabbits have no sense of punctuality. Adam's comparison of the way the rabbits gather with "primitive people" is a bit awkward to modern ears. However, the description of the right time to begin something being a communal venture is beautifully described, as it applies to birds, and is very true, in many animals including people. Adam's treatment of Does in the book also needs mentioning. He was inspired by R.M. Lockley's 'The Private Life of the Rabbit'. Yet, apparently, Lockley made it clear that Does will often leave a warren to start a new one. So why is it only Bucks that leave the Sandleford Warren?

4.3 The leaving party in order.

First arrivals: Hazel: Group leader (Already introduced) Fiver: his brother. The main protagonist of the reason for leaving (Already introduced) Pipkin ("Hlao" in Lapine): Small, like Fiver, but without his psychic abilities.

4.4 Second arrivals Hawkbit: A less than intelligent rabbit that Hazel spent some time with during the snow a while before. Dandelion: Has persuaded Hawkbit to join. Later he plays a crucial role as the story-teller.

4.5 Third arrivals Blackberry: Already introduced. A highly intelligent rabbit who MAY have been the rabbit talking to Buckthorn, not Dandelion, in Chapter One. Buckthorn: The only named rabbit in the opening conversation of the book. A tough rabbit who is a candidate for the Owsla. Speedwell and Acorn: Described as "typical outskirters - thin-looking six-monthers" who Hazel does not recognise.

4.6 Fourth arrivals Bigwig: Already introduced. The physically strongest rabbit in the group...we later learn. Silver: Over 12 months old. Grey fur with patches of white. A new member of the Owsla and nephew of the Threarah. The arrival of these two gives another chance for us to learn of Hazel's leadership qualities. The group of rabbits that leaves the Sandleford Warren. 11 male rabbits (Bucks) and no females (Does): Hazel Fiver Pipkin Hawkbit Dandelion Blackberry Buckthorn Speedwell Acorn Bigwig Silver

4.7 The fight Having established the group that leave, we proceed to the first act of violence in the book. Three members of the Owsla arrive, including Captain Holly (the leader of the Owsla). Bigwig confronts him and is informed that he, and Silver, are under arrest. Is the implication that the rest of the rabbits could have just left with no problems? If so, this is just a case of a highly militarised warren in which anyone outside the Owsla is treated like dirt? Bears comparison with human societies. What is the Owsla FOR? Bigwig attacks Holly as soon as he has finished making his accusations. Buckthorn and Dandelion join in. The two Owsla run away. Holly remains, clearly ready for more fighting. But it is Hazel, uninvolved in the violence, who calmly tells him, twice, to go or he will be killed. Holly leaves, after making empty threats. A wounded Dandelion says they should leave immediately, as the whole Owsla will be after them soon. He is backed up by Fiver. Hazel says they should leave right away and follow the stream to keep together. Bigwig tries to offer advice, but Hazel points out there isn't time. They leave.

4.8 Next episode Next time: the journey begins. And the rabbits learn just how scary things can get.

Vocab: Hlao: Any small dip in the grass where moisture might collect.