We invest much time making meals for our dads when we know it's a complicated affair. Why? Mecca and Abē chew on this quandary with a guest. They welcome Super Düper Fooder, Katie Myrhe who unpacks researching 10 General Tso’s recipes and other gut checking moments of intrigue.

When not making fancy spaghetti Katie works @REDMarketMN to ensure fair compensation for farmers, and is currently working on an online market: farnkandernestmarkets.com.

@meccabos, @abelevine, @khmyhre