Rachel and Francesca hear from ceremonialist and writer, Angharad Wynne, and farmer and founder of Glasbren, Abel Pearson about the ways they bring ceremony, ritual and vigil into their work and daily lives. Together they explore how we can celebrate this time of the year and welcome the darker, winter months as an opportunity for rest, renewal and creativity.

Listening to the Land is a new podcast from the Real Farming Trust and Animate Earth Collective. Hosted by Francesca Price and Rachel Fleming, it explores how to build a deeper and more reciprocal relationship with the Land. Subscribe on PodBean, Apple Podcasts or Spotify to be the first to hear new episodes. Introduction music: The Great Turning by Simmy Singh.