Mark Johnson didn't start Johnson Construction with a playbook. He started with grit, poor health, no time for himself and his family....and eventually hit a wall. 

In this 2 part episode, Mark is joined by his wife and business partner, Josee. They share the honest story of how they moved from survival to stability, and what it cost them along the way.

They get into the power of having a strong second-in-command, why trusting your team is harder than it sounds, and how standardizing your processes (even just dress codes and digital signatures) creates clarity that money alone can't buy.

Josee brings her own perspective on leading from behind the scenes — and why empathy might be one of the most underrated leadership skills in any business.

This is a real conversation about the unglamorous work that actually builds something lasting.

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