In this podcast episode, Phil and Richard discuss the discouragement that ministry leaders often face. He shares four rhythms to help navigate discouragement: 

1) Gathering intentionally 

2) Digging deeply

3) Laughing freely

4) Resting regularly 

They remind listeners that it's important to build these practices into their lives proactively so that they are prepared when discouragement strikes.  Embrace these rhythms for sustained growth and well-being in all leadership journeys.

Reflection Questions:

1. Can you identify areas in your life where you can make time to dig deeper into your faith? What does that look like for you?

2. Why do you think laughter is important for ministry leaders and how can humor help alleviate discouragement?

3. What does rest look like for you spiritually, and how can you prioritize that rest in your daily life?

4. How do you currently spend your free time, and are there changes you can make to ensure that you are genuinely resting and recharging?

5. What are some specific ways you can gather intentionally with others to help support you during times of discouragement?