Dagny and Luke debate Sports vs. Art.

We talk about our backgrounds and why we love sports and dancing (1:53).

We discuss the merits of competition and whether it's the driving force behind the motivations and success of great artists (24:59).

We compare two fundamental parts of human nature—competition and curiosity— and debate their value to our culture. (44:56).

Dagny makes the case for an Eastern mindset towards competition (1:02:34) and tries to educate Luke on types of art that may not have been remembered at all (1:13:54)

Then we talk about emotion in sports and art (1:23:56).

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Music by Antti Loude