Salty and Wired

4 - The Jukebox and the Z-Loop


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In this episode, Ian Gray & Rob McKinney discuss the Zygarnik Effect and how a Jukebox playlist can help you cycle between a few critical tasks during your workday. Ian has been working with this Zloop tactic to improve his performance.


The Salty & Wired podcast is a conversation between two salty and wired guys who worked in construction and found a connection through technology. Our goal is to help you develop a controlled burn lifestyle.

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Salty and WiredBy Rob McKinney + Ian Gray