In this episode i catch up with a training partner and friend - Cass Hay.

I actually didn't expect the conversation we had to be what we had - however this is one of the reasons why I enjoy this long form discussion format.

I'm truly grateful to share in peoples memories both happy, sad and other as we are all humans searching for that 'something' in our lives.

That said, I really appreciate the gift of having someone open their heart to tell you things they have experienced and so I hope everyone enjoys our discussion.

Disclaimer: I also open up about an experience I had with Mescaline and I don't think Cass or I condone some of the things we discuss in this podcast other than doing physical activities like martial arts and yoga.