Elizabeth and Roger talk about the latest fads in academia and inspirational vs. operational leaders

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Episode 23 with Al Sommer: http://effortreport.libsyn.com/23-special-guest-al-sommer

Tyler Cowen indirect costs article https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-05-31/u-s-could-use-a-better-way-to-pay-for-science

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