Lyla June is a poet, musician, human ecologist, public speaker and community organizer of Diné (Navajo), Tsétsêhéstâhese (Cheyenne), and European lineages. She talks with Eric about the links between food revitalization and language revitalization, how food production is tied to land protection, the power structure that food creates, the brittleness of industrial food, and learning the lessons of collapse, among other things.