While the world is on fire, take solace in this, our latest episode. Originally recorded at the end of May, we decided to postpone this one due to the protests across the country over the murder of George Floyd by the Minneapolis Police Department. And just so it's clear, this podcast supports Black Lives Matter and stands in solidarity. 

In this episode we are joined by John Cullen, co-host of Blocked Party and the P.O.D. Kast. Andrew has brought us an EP from an all female supergroup boygenius, which we all agree is amazing. Nick has the latest from Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit and some hot takes are had all around. Finally, John has brought in the tour de force Civilization by the duo Wye Oak!