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- 00:55 We have a return guest, Sam Ovenshine!

- 2:00 Sam: FATFIRE. Have you had any discussions as of recent about the Antiwork movement / sub-reddit?

- 6:30 Jon: Antiwork if FATFIRE but with no way out

- 8:15 Hugh shares screen viewing /antiwork subreddit

- 10:45 Hugh: Is the core complaint / core criticism that 1.) people aren’t paid enough? 2. Their work environment isn’t conducive enough to have a happy, balanced life, that they can sustainably live off? 3.) it’s not paid enough so that they can’t just never work again quote unquote?

- 11:58 Hugh: As a new manager, is that the lens you’re now analyzing things from?

- 12:20 Hugh: Is it about giving people meaning, value, aspiration, inspiration to work in collaborative environments that feel meaningful to them, and feeling supported by managers type methodology? 

- 14:30 Jon: Have you heard of Doomer Optimism Author: Tucker Max

- 18:30 Sam: What about the Prepper philosophy is appealing? Do you two Prep?

- 21:30 Jon brings sleeping bags on trips - smart!

- 22:28 Hugh: What’s that minimal viable product to allow you to survive for three days at a moments notice?

- 23:38 Hugh: Are you Prepped to have all of your hard assets and photographic type assets digitized in case they’re destroyed?

- 25:10 Hugh: How do I defend family and loved ones if a physical aggressor approaches?

- 26:35 Hugh: What’s the most minimal quality amount of self defense? Survivability? Money, especially runway, in case you lose your job? Etc.

- 27:35 Hugh: Should we really be taking away funding from the police departments? 

- 32:27 Hugh: What are the definitions for SAFE areas?

- 32:45 Sam: If you say to someone, why would you favor places like New York over Huntsville, Alabama? The “I’d rather be in a blue state than a red state” convo. Is this narrow minded?

- 34:10 Hugh: I do wonder a lot about the separation between church and state, peoples possible isolation of one type of characteristic within social silos.

- 35:43 Hugh: Do we want to talk about how San Francisco is treating their Homeless? Do we want to talk about the large wealth disparity there? Do we want to talk about the $800 per year yearly fee to keep an LLC active in California which possibly disenfranchises even one person?

- 36:40 Hugh: What is the line between restricting free trade and commerce domestically and internationally?

- 36:50 Hugh: Do we want to talk about gun rights and or Texas’s abortion laws? Separation between church and state, civic unions in conjunction with spiritual marriage and the re-appropriation of terms to minimize arguments and conflation?

- 40:30 Hugh: Socio economic class, ethnic heritage, skin color, what are things one is interested in, ability to make money / job / does it have access there, do I have friends or family out there? 

- 46:00 Hugh: When do you think, supposedly, psychologically, teach your kid to socially connect with others and learn to connect with other human beings?

- 48:50 Jon: Kids are the ones who got the short end of the stick during this pandemic. How are you supposed to stay