Welcome to WorkingTech, a new podcast series where co-founders and co-hosts Kevin W. Grossman and Bill Banham talk about all things tech in the working world around us -- including HR, recruiting and related technologies.

Each podcast episode will include an informative fresh take on tech and business with the entrepreneurs, technologists, solution providers, analysts, consultants, journalists and influencers who make and explain the tech magic so we can all work better. Because hardly working isn’t an option.

Enjoy this conversation that co-host Bill Banham had with Derek Smith, General Manager for Xref North America, an online and fully automated employment reference checking software that helps companies collect more meaningful candidate insights, faster than phone-based methods.