In this episode, Daniel and Jake interview Gabe Gonzalez about his experience with the Church. Follow Gabe on Instagram @GabeDrawsALot. Commission him to do stuff. He's cool. They also give a surprising update on what Kenneth has been up to. Lastly, to no one's surprise, the podcast has in fact turned into Shrek Fan Fiction. Teamwork makes the dream work, and Dreamworks makes Shrek.