On the pod this time Louie Walsh on Stephen Gately; Madonna in Vogue; we talk Nana’s; Debbie gets banned; there’s a topical ‘inaugural’ freedom of choice; plus news on the new Luther Vandross documentary; Oh, and not forgetting Debbie’s mystery meat!

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