Tea saunas, detective mysteries, and magical Cairo, oh my! Shaun Duke and Brandon O’Brien join forces for an incredible interview with the incredible P. Djèlí Clark! Together, they discuss A Master of Djinn, the wonders of historical research, addressing transnational racism, making Cairo full of magic, wonder, and complexity, and challenging genre and historical practices in fiction, plus much more! Thanks for listening. We hope you enjoy the episode! Show Notes: Send us your comments, questions, and suggestions! A Master of Djinn by P. Djèlí Clark (Buy It!) Phenderson’s Things: Website Blog Twitter If you have a question you’d like us to answer, feel free to shoot us a message on our contact page. Our new intro and outro music comes from Holy Mole. You can support his work at patreon.com/holymole. See you later, navigator!