Matt Ward, author of "The High Five Effect," doesn't work past 1 pm. Nor does he work on Fridays. And he'll take four cruises this year. He's created the lifestyle of his dreams — without doing any of the tedious work often associated with marketing. In this episode, he shares how he moved his business past the insecurity stage by building recurring revenue and cultivating referrals.

Matt Ward, author of "The High Five Effect," doesn't work past 1 pm. Nor does he work on Fridays. And he'll take four cruises this year. He's created the lifestyle of his dreams — without doing any of the tedious work often associated with marketing. In this episode, he shares how he moved his business past the insecurity stage by building recurring revenue and cultivating referrals.

Matt Ward, author of "The High Five Effect," doesn't work past 1 pm. Nor does he work on Fridays. And he'll take four cruises this year. He's created the lifestyle of his dreams — without doing any of the tedious work often associated with marketing. In this episode, he shares how he moved his business past the insecurity stage by building recurring revenue and cultivating referrals.

43. How to grow your business without doing marketing

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43. How to grow your business without doing marketing

43. How to grow your business without doing marketing