Christians are called to love the world as God did. But believers are also called to forsake worldliness. So, what 's the difference between love for the world and forsaking the love of worldliness? In this, third, conversational episode with my friend Mark we discuss that tension and go on to variously discuss: the definition of love, pertinent Bible verses about love, the arc of one's life, and life's true North star for Christians. Just what does it mean to go against the tide? How did Mark go against the tide at his job? How has Ed resisted worldliness across 8 years of producing his show? How does the world "turn on the spigot" for us so that we conceded much of what it means to follow Christ? After all, there are openly wicked temptations but then there are ways of just going along with the tide; both sides can be equally destructive. Come laugh and think with the two of us!