What happens when we die, how to avoid work, and taking part in a creative discussion group are all talked about as we sit in the sun on a park bench. "I had the experience of fainting a lot when I was younger... of losing consciousness, my soul leaving my body... one of the last times when I really fainted hard I just didn't want to come back here, it was just a feeling of massive expansion". #otherlivesareavailable #podcast #eastlondon #photographer