Needless to say, Covid 19 created instant havoc on a huge amount of industries worldwide, but perhaps a story not told enough, or without negativity, is that of the travel industry. 

This week the tables are turned as Ameliya interviews Nathan about the experiences of working in that very industry throughout the Covid era. 

This interview covers a range of topics including the closing of the border, the immediate impact on the industry, the painfully slow recovery, but most importantly the emotional trauma of the time, that still lingers today, as Nathan opens up about having to stand down people he cared about, regrets from that time, being stood down himself, and the media field day aimed at the Industry in it's darkest hour and how that fueled some ugly situations. 

Nath pays tribute to some of the people he worked with, why he chose to return, government choices, and why he greaves the industry, even as it surges back to prominence today. 

To finish the discussion the guys dabble into a little bit of tourism today and some missing flight MH370 talk! 

All that and more on this weeks episode! 

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