Classically (Un)Trained

44: Ep. 3: Arguing About Death of the Artist | An Opera Singer and a Comedian Walk Into a Bar

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An Opera Singer and a Comedian Walk Into a Bar features opera-singer-turned-experimental-performer Ema Katrovas, talking to comedian-and-TV-writer-turned-novelist Nicholas Anthony. They have conversations from across the high/low art divide with the goal of being honest about what a life centring art - high or low - actually looks like.

Nick and Ema recorded this episode directly after attending a talk by William Deresiewitz, author of Death of the Artist: How Creatives Struggle in the Age of Billionaires and Big Tech.
Links to stuff we talk about:

  • William Dereseiwitz - The Death of the Artist: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250125514/thedeathoftheartist
  • Network effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect
  • Tangerine (movie shot on iPhones): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangerine_(film)
  • Nebula (creator-led alternative to YouTube): https://nebula.tv/
  • The installation Ema worked on for the Muzeum of Literature in Prague was called Abaceda. There is no link - you would have to go to the Muzeum of Literature of Prague: https://www.muzeumliteratury.cz/en/
  • OpenSea: https://opensea.io/
  • The American royalties-collecting institution: https://www.ascap.com/


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