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#44 How to Maintain Detachment While Running a Successful Business | Jamie Baxter
Listen on: Fio (Catholic Spotify) | Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube
News / Updates:
* Enjoy this Sunday special to kick off the year
* Stay tuned for a Catholic Founders Dinner near you (we aim to host 12 this year, so let us know if you’d like us to come to your area)
* This week is going to be packed full of content — please check it all out because we are putting a lot of effort into it (will go back to normal posting after this week)
* Sponsorships: We are looking for 3 anchor sponsors to support the show in 2026 — reach out to learn more [email protected]
Join the Catholic Founders Guild Today
Get access to all CF Guild online events, the recordings, paywalled content, the CF Guild community/group chat, and CF Guild member directory.
Many members have reported doing business with other CF Guild members within months of joining.
With an annual membership fee of $100, it’s a total no-brainer to join. Consider this an association of Catholic business owners, not a high-commitment community that will sap your time.
Join today for $100 a year or $10 a month.
In Today’s Issue:
* Intro to the Guest and Topic
* Core Takeaway
* Episode References
* Select Quotes
* Key Moments
First time here? Learn more about our mission. And don’t forget to subscribe.
Today’s Topic & Guest:
Jamie Baxter | Exodus 90
How to have true detachment from your business, without being detached from the work and from your customers.
As entrepreneurs, it’s easy to make entrepreneurship, and by extension, our company, our identity. But we know that our true identity is that of a child of God, created in His image and likeness. We also need to avoid attachment to our earthly success, recognition, or financial outcomes.
Today’s conversation does a great job of covering the different angles of this topic.
Hire Talent That Actually Shares Your Mission with Verso Jobs.
Verso Jobs has built a gamified, data-driven job platform to help you hire people who actually share your mission and values.
Their team understands your needs, goes out to qualified candidates, tests them through the gamified application. Then presents you with candidates who truly share your mission.
If you’re a Catholic or conservative organization looking to cut through the fog, reach out to Verso Jobs to help you today.
Whether you’re hiring for your startup, school, parish, or nonprofit — Verso makes it easy to find mission-aligned talent ready to build the Kingdom.
Visit versojobs.com or book a demo to get started — To the heights. ⛰️
Core Lesson:
We can be detached from this world while still being in it, even as business owners with a responsibility to our communities. And when we do this well, we’re simply recognizing that God is the ultimate master.
We are called to carry out God’s will in the world. That doesn’t mean we are called to make oodles of money. Or to gain the respect of men. Those things may be part of God’s will for our lives, but that will be unique for each of us.
What is not unique is that we are called to detach ourselves from this world and attach ourselves firmly and irremovably to the Will of God for us.
Attachment to money or fame is incompatible with this goal.
However, when we see all things as coming from God, we become capable of being good stewards of the things He has given to our care.
God Bless & Happy Building!
~Silas Mähner
Hire Catholic Overseas Talent
In LatAm and the Philippines, there are millions of Catholic remote workers (across all domains) who want to work for ethical bosses.
Often they’re treated as second class citizens or work for organizations that ask them to do questionable things. They reach out to us in search of a Catholic boss.
So, we started ParacleteVA (website coming soon).
With ParacleteVA, we’ll find you vetted, Catholic overseas talent who will help you move your business forward.
How it works: Pay a $500 finders fee when the candidate starts and $500 if you’re still happy with them after 30 days.
To get started reach out to [email protected] with what you’re looking for and we’ll get started.
This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.catholicfounders.com/subscribe
Key Episode References:
* Exodus 90
* St. John Henry Newman
* St. Arsenius
* Jim Perry - Generous Catholic Donor
* Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson - 37Signals
* Blue Ocean Strategy (book)
Select Quotes:
* “You don’t need more than you have to do God’s will.” (Jamie Baxter)
* “The only reason I kept going was I felt like the Lord was asking me to... when that stops, I will stop.” (Jamie Baxter)
* “Whatever your mind’s eye is on your thing... God’s plan is different.” (Jamie Baxter)
* “I just ask for my daily bread. I pray that the breadcrumbs be there.” (Jamie Baxter)
* “[John Henry] Newman... actually sees faith as the highest form of reasoning.” (Jamie Baxter)
* “I have never done this to hit some kind of revenue goal.” (Jamie Baxter)
* “I think the vast majority of us should... play a part in renewing the good and necessary and essential institutions like our parishes.” (Jamie Baxter)
Key Moments: (outline)
* 00:00 — Intro
* 03:47 — Jamie Baxter on the importance of detachment for entrepreneurs
* 05:12 — Exploring the first three years of Exodus 90 and the role of providence
* 07:32 — Recognizing the business journey as a tool for personal and spiritual growth
* 11:26 — Discerning the line between divine calling and personal hubris
* 13:14 — Cultivating a daily disposition of trust and seeking “daily bread”
* 16:39 — Integrating faith and reason when making high-stakes business decisions
* 22:36 — A Catholic perspective on the importance of renewing existing institutions
* 27:37 — Scaling impact while maintaining a lean, mission-focused team
* 31:50 — Applying “Blue Ocean Strategy” to avoid competition and stay true to a unique charism
* 37:15 — Practical advice for remaining detached from outcomes during periods of success
* 44:14 — Balancing high-level vision with staying close to the daily “work”
* 48:12 — The strategic transition from a non-profit to a private for-profit entity
* 53:48 — Redefining ownership and reinvestment through a Catholic lens
* 1:01:18 — Learning from secular entrepreneurs and filtering for traditional wisdom
* 1:03:29 — Rapid Fire: Favorite scriptures, influential saints, and the power of the Rosary
* 1:15:44 — Closing reflections on purifying desires and pursuing spiritual freedom
This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.catholicfounders.com/subscribe
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By Silas MähnerListen on: Fio (Catholic Spotify) | Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube
News / Updates:
* Enjoy this Sunday special to kick off the year
* Stay tuned for a Catholic Founders Dinner near you (we aim to host 12 this year, so let us know if you’d like us to come to your area)
* This week is going to be packed full of content — please check it all out because we are putting a lot of effort into it (will go back to normal posting after this week)
* Sponsorships: We are looking for 3 anchor sponsors to support the show in 2026 — reach out to learn more [email protected]
Join the Catholic Founders Guild Today
Get access to all CF Guild online events, the recordings, paywalled content, the CF Guild community/group chat, and CF Guild member directory.
Many members have reported doing business with other CF Guild members within months of joining.
With an annual membership fee of $100, it’s a total no-brainer to join. Consider this an association of Catholic business owners, not a high-commitment community that will sap your time.
Join today for $100 a year or $10 a month.
In Today’s Issue:
* Intro to the Guest and Topic
* Core Takeaway
* Episode References
* Select Quotes
* Key Moments
First time here? Learn more about our mission. And don’t forget to subscribe.
Today’s Topic & Guest:
Jamie Baxter | Exodus 90
How to have true detachment from your business, without being detached from the work and from your customers.
As entrepreneurs, it’s easy to make entrepreneurship, and by extension, our company, our identity. But we know that our true identity is that of a child of God, created in His image and likeness. We also need to avoid attachment to our earthly success, recognition, or financial outcomes.
Today’s conversation does a great job of covering the different angles of this topic.
Hire Talent That Actually Shares Your Mission with Verso Jobs.
Verso Jobs has built a gamified, data-driven job platform to help you hire people who actually share your mission and values.
Their team understands your needs, goes out to qualified candidates, tests them through the gamified application. Then presents you with candidates who truly share your mission.
If you’re a Catholic or conservative organization looking to cut through the fog, reach out to Verso Jobs to help you today.
Whether you’re hiring for your startup, school, parish, or nonprofit — Verso makes it easy to find mission-aligned talent ready to build the Kingdom.
Visit versojobs.com or book a demo to get started — To the heights. ⛰️
Core Lesson:
We can be detached from this world while still being in it, even as business owners with a responsibility to our communities. And when we do this well, we’re simply recognizing that God is the ultimate master.
We are called to carry out God’s will in the world. That doesn’t mean we are called to make oodles of money. Or to gain the respect of men. Those things may be part of God’s will for our lives, but that will be unique for each of us.
What is not unique is that we are called to detach ourselves from this world and attach ourselves firmly and irremovably to the Will of God for us.
Attachment to money or fame is incompatible with this goal.
However, when we see all things as coming from God, we become capable of being good stewards of the things He has given to our care.
God Bless & Happy Building!
~Silas Mähner
Hire Catholic Overseas Talent
In LatAm and the Philippines, there are millions of Catholic remote workers (across all domains) who want to work for ethical bosses.
Often they’re treated as second class citizens or work for organizations that ask them to do questionable things. They reach out to us in search of a Catholic boss.
So, we started ParacleteVA (website coming soon).
With ParacleteVA, we’ll find you vetted, Catholic overseas talent who will help you move your business forward.
How it works: Pay a $500 finders fee when the candidate starts and $500 if you’re still happy with them after 30 days.
To get started reach out to [email protected] with what you’re looking for and we’ll get started.
This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.catholicfounders.com/subscribe
Key Episode References:
* Exodus 90
* St. John Henry Newman
* St. Arsenius
* Jim Perry - Generous Catholic Donor
* Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson - 37Signals
* Blue Ocean Strategy (book)
Select Quotes:
* “You don’t need more than you have to do God’s will.” (Jamie Baxter)
* “The only reason I kept going was I felt like the Lord was asking me to... when that stops, I will stop.” (Jamie Baxter)
* “Whatever your mind’s eye is on your thing... God’s plan is different.” (Jamie Baxter)
* “I just ask for my daily bread. I pray that the breadcrumbs be there.” (Jamie Baxter)
* “[John Henry] Newman... actually sees faith as the highest form of reasoning.” (Jamie Baxter)
* “I have never done this to hit some kind of revenue goal.” (Jamie Baxter)
* “I think the vast majority of us should... play a part in renewing the good and necessary and essential institutions like our parishes.” (Jamie Baxter)
Key Moments: (outline)
* 00:00 — Intro
* 03:47 — Jamie Baxter on the importance of detachment for entrepreneurs
* 05:12 — Exploring the first three years of Exodus 90 and the role of providence
* 07:32 — Recognizing the business journey as a tool for personal and spiritual growth
* 11:26 — Discerning the line between divine calling and personal hubris
* 13:14 — Cultivating a daily disposition of trust and seeking “daily bread”
* 16:39 — Integrating faith and reason when making high-stakes business decisions
* 22:36 — A Catholic perspective on the importance of renewing existing institutions
* 27:37 — Scaling impact while maintaining a lean, mission-focused team
* 31:50 — Applying “Blue Ocean Strategy” to avoid competition and stay true to a unique charism
* 37:15 — Practical advice for remaining detached from outcomes during periods of success
* 44:14 — Balancing high-level vision with staying close to the daily “work”
* 48:12 — The strategic transition from a non-profit to a private for-profit entity
* 53:48 — Redefining ownership and reinvestment through a Catholic lens
* 1:01:18 — Learning from secular entrepreneurs and filtering for traditional wisdom
* 1:03:29 — Rapid Fire: Favorite scriptures, influential saints, and the power of the Rosary
* 1:15:44 — Closing reflections on purifying desires and pursuing spiritual freedom
This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.catholicfounders.com/subscribe