Sergio talks to Brenda Boylan and Michael Orwick about how the annual retreat came together, Brenda’s horror-story plein air event housing host, theories on why the Portland plein air community is so tight-knit & doing plein air events today. Should new painters jump into the plein air scene, painting for galleries and how changes of directions affect that. Are the most celebrated artists rule-breakers? They talk about the Plein Air Convention and future plans, and Brenda’s T5DOA! Recorded 9/28/18.