Tom travels to Jenkintown, Pennsylvania, to visit friend and fellow reinvention expert Brian Balthazar — former HGTV executive, Today Show producer, stand-up comic, and co-host of Human vs. Hamster on Max.

They talk about launching Kathie Lee & Hoda, Brian’s unexpected pivot from TV exec to napkin entrepreneur, and how midlife “menopause” (for men) is real. This episode is full of unexpected career turns, heartfelt confessions, and the kind of laughs that come from two friends who have seen behind the curtain of fame... and lived to tell about it.