I’m joined today by Peter Cooper. He has spent 25+ years leading security transformations across high-stakes industries like fintech, banking, and critical infrastructure. From scaling global teams at Adyen to navigating compliance across IPOs and banking licenses, Peter now helps early-stage and growth companies build pragmatic, trust-first security. This episode explores what founders can learn from enterprise mistakes, how to bake security into culture, and why checklists won’t save you.

We talk about:

We talk about:

🛡️ When to not hire a CISO — and what to do instead

🔍 How top founders evaluate security at each stage of the startup journey

🚫 The difference between security theater vs real resilience

📈 Why every founder should define their risk appetite before they scale

👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 How to build “self-healing” security culture in early-stage teams

⚙️ The surprising truth about SOC2 tools like Vanta and more

🧠 Peter’s 6-phase security maturity model from Ideation to IPO

💸 Security metrics that actually matter — including how to reduce spend over time

⚖️ Compliance vs Trust — and why one won’t save you

💥 Real-world founder mistakes that triggered breaches

This episode is a must-listen for any founder navigating fundraising, customer trust, or scaling product with peace of mind. Especially if you’re non-technical — Peter explains it all without buzzwords or scare tactics.

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Important Links:

You can reach Peter at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petercoopercv/

Vishesh, your host at https://vishesh.space

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Chapters

0:00 - Peter’s Background: From Adyen to Fractional CISO

2:00 - What Startups Get Wrong About Security

4:07 - Why Security Is Often Reactive, Not Proactive

6:15 - Misconceptions Around Compliance and SOC2

9:12 - Security Debt vs Technical Debt

12:10 - The Culture Layer of Security

15:22 - Security Theater in Startups

17:50 - When to Hire a CISO (and When Not To)

21:05 - Security Responsibilities in Early Teams

23:48 - Peter’s 6-Phase Security Maturity Model

27:15 - What “Minimum Viable Security” Looks Like

30:20 - Evaluating Vanta, Drata, and AI-Compliance Tools

33:42 - Reducing Friction for Engineers

36:10 - Key Security Metrics That Actually Matter

38:55 - Common Founder Blind Spots

41:00 - Advice for Non-Technical Founders

43:05 - The Biggest Security Mistake Peter Ever Saw

45:40 - Final Takeaways for SaaS Founders