Jon Burgerman and I go a while back, I showed him at the heliumcowboy gallery in Hamburg for the first time in 2008 and we did a couple of exhibitions together for a few years after.

Jon is known for his unique, witty and instantly recognizable illustrations. He moved from England to New York some years ago, where I reached him at his studio for this episode. We talk about how he got to the Big Apple, how he copes with the demands of the art word, and we also talk about football, because that is a huge thing for both of us and part of our friendship.