February 20th, 2025

In this episode: I talk to Malissa Pistillo about our experiences and knowledge about insomnia. We discuss Cognitive Behaviour Therapy for Insomnia (CBTi), things that help us sleep and more.

Check out episode #43 for Malissa's benzo story and more information about her.

As discussed in this episode:

"The Insomnia Diaries" by Miranda Levi (episode #13)

The Matt Walker Podcast

(00:00:00) Intro

(00:01:33) Malissa's insomnia

(00:06:45) Naftal's insomnia

(00:10:45) Benzos effect on sleep

(00:12:00) CBTi

(00:21:02) Malissa's learnings on insomnia

(00:26:10) Timezone changes, winding down, chronotypes and education

(00:37:45) Rebound REM sleep

(00:46:17) What helps Malissa sleep

(00:53:10) What helps Naftal sleep

(00:56:00) Naps

(00:58:00) Switching bedrooms & coffee

(01:01:00) Work, hope & outro