Today’s conversation is with Shira Kleinman, a guide in Haifa who immersed herself in Hebrew- and tears- in order to get her license. We talk about the importance of food, staying positive and why her New Jersey family thinks she’s getting soft.

Conversation from May 21st 2020.

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Mount Carmel and The Shrine of Báb.

The Kibbutz Movement.

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Music by Mark Schilders. Design by Chris Whyte, and Chris' non-profit charity project 'The Chariso Press'.

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