Martin Rodriguez sits down with Michael Niebauer, author of Virtuous Persuasion: A Theology of Christian Mission. Together, they discuss the experiences that inspired the book, Niebauer’s unique approach to mission rooted in theological ethics, and how virtue plays a central role in Christian discipleship. The conversation also explores the challenges of modern church planting, the significance of persuasion in mission work, and the importance of focusing on glorifying God in all aspects of ministry.