René Girard—a French-American literary critic, philosopher, and anthropologist—has profoundly shaped Oliver's and Ante's thinking. In this episode, they explore key Girardian themes: desire, imitation, envy, resentment, violence, the origins of religion, and scapegoating. They argue that Girard offers a lens that, if taken seriously, radically reconfigures how we understand both reality and Scripture.

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In this podcast, we engage in free-ranging conversations about life, faith, philosophy, ethics, relationships, culture, experience, and all matters existential. As the show’s title suggests, we approach these topics “in the middle of things”—grabbing hold of them unsystematically and provisionally. As for who we are: we are friends, verbal sparring partners, and colleagues at Andrews University. - Oliver Glanz and Ante Jerončič 

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